Honeywell 5800PIR-RES: Programming to an L5200 security system

The 5800PIR-RES is the most popular residential security system on the market. In this video Sterling explains how to program it to the L5200.

Another option is to set it to Perimeter and just remember to bypass any motion zones when arming to stay. This takes more manual action, but would make it so the motions are always an instant alarm when activated in away mode.
That's too bad. It would be a useful option. I will experiment and if I find a solution, I'll post an update. Thanks
Yes, the problem is that the other Response Types that would avoid the "following" of the entry delay (such as Perimeter) will keep the motion active in stay mode which you wouldn't typically want on a motion. If the keypad is that close to the door, you could simply drop your Entry Delay 1 time (in the System Settings section of Programming) to only 15 seconds so that an intruder wouldn't have as much time in the home before the alarm would trigger.
Not really. I want to force the person entering the home to turn off the alarm on the panel at the Entry/Exit door before moving any further into the space. If a burglar happens to enter by that door then he/she has 45 seconds to roam around. I want instant trigger if that motion is tripped. Can I change the sensor type to "Other" and use another response type? The only thing is it can't be set for Perimeter because of Armed Stay.
If you have the motion set to Interior Follower, there will only be a delay if a delay door is triggered first. If no delay zones are triggered before the motion, then it would be an instant alarm. Does that work for you?
How do you make a motion sensor trip the alarm without the entry delay? I'd rather have the motion sensor cause the L5200 to contact dispatch if it sees anything at all. I can reach my panel just inside the door without having to be in view of any motion sensors so the delay is a negative thing in this case.

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Honeywell's most popular residential motion detector has both pet immunity, and infra red sensor. It is an accurate sensor, not prone to false alarms, and it works with any of Honeywell's wireless security systems. In this video, Sterling shows us how to program the 5800PIR-RES to the L5200 security system.


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Hi DIYers, Sterling with Alarm Grid here. Today, we're going to show you how to program a Honeywell 5800PIR-RES wireless motion detector. 5800 is just a common series. 5800 series is any wireless device that works with a Honeywell wireless panel. PIR means Passive Infrared. That's the type of technology that this motion uses. That's the most common type of technology used with a motion for a burglary alarm system, and RES means Residential. So, it doesn't mean you can't use it in a commercial application. In fact, this is, by far, the most commonly used motion with a Lynx touch panel. So even if you own a business, don't feel like you can't use this sensor.

This motion is included with the kits that we offer on our website. It's also included with kits sold by nearly any alarm company that's offering this LYNX Touch L5200 System. So, inside our box we have our motion detector and we have our battery, which will power our motion detector. You can see this is the Fresnel lens. This is the motion lens. On the inside, there's the Passive Infrared Device, looks through this lens. This lens shoots down the zones of detection into the room, which gives us our motion protection throughout our room.

At the bottom here, we have this little tab that we can depress to pop it open and you can see it consists of just a plastic back plate which we use to affix to the wall. There are screw holes on the back and then there are screw holes that you can drill out on the side for corner mounting. That's what you do with the back plate. And then we have our actual motion detector, which is on the back side of this plastic, and then again seeing through the lens.

To give power to the unit, we need to insert our battery. The 5800PIR-RES uses the same battery as the 5816 door and window sensor, the CR123A. It's a 3-volt lithium. Right here in the plastic of the device, you have an imprint for a positive and a negative, so you know exactly how to install your battery. The battery, you've got your positive side and your negative side, and you simply snap it in place. Now, our motion has power and every time we wave our hand in front of it or move, we're getting this light to indicate that it's picking up motion.

That LED indicator is only live during the first 10 minutes after you power up the unit. You can reset that 10-minute period by popping the battery out and putting it back in, but this is designed so that you can temporarily mount it where you think you're going to have it and you would be able to walk throughout the room and make sure that that light is coming on every time you have motion. And then you would know that that is a good installation location and then you can program it to the panel and permanently mount it. Again, after the 10-minute period, that light cuts out. The motion is still working. It's just no longer giving you the visual indication. The reason it doesn't do this all the time is because we want the battery to last longer than it would if it was indicating the LED each time. So, I just want to point that out.

Now that we have the power and we know how this device works, we're going to show you how to program it to this system. So, the LYNX Touch L5200, we're on the Security tab, which, from the home screen, you hit Security to get to here and you have an option for more at the bottom right. When you hit "More," you then see the option for Tools. "Tools" is prompting you for a code. They're looking for the master code or the installer code. To program a zone, we need our installer code, which by default is "4112." We type that in and we have the option now for program.When we hit "Program" we see at the top it shows that we are in System Programming. That yellow bar at the top doesn't go away. No matter where you are in programming, it will show that.

For the motion or for any sensor, to program it we have to go to zones, all right? And here we have our list of our zones. We already have some sensors programmed. So, this is our motion and we want to learn in and we're going to choose the next available zone, which happens to be zone A. When we highlight it, it goes to blue. We see zoning new, and we have the option to edit the zone. And that page is the zone 8 edit screen and this is where you learn in the sensor.

The first thing that we need to do is program the serial number. The serial number is a 7-digit number that tells the system how to look or accept inputs from this device. So that's how you pair a device back to the panel with the serial number. Click into the box and there's two different ways, one is to type in the number. The other way, which I am indicating just by moving around, each time I move is faulting in the device, and you have to fault it three times to get it to learn in. You heard the beep once. You heard it beep twice and now we've heard it beep three times. That was me faulting the device just by moving. Three faults of the device learned in the proper serial number. You can verify, you will never have this number not be what's here but you can see it does says "022-1221". Proper serial number is enrolled.

The loop number one was learned in automatically. That is the proper loop number to use with this device. That is detailed in the installation guide that comes with the device, and, of course, is information that we have on our website. But you can verify again that loop number one is what we want to use and by auto enrolling, it automatically selects the loop so you can't make the mistake of programming the wrong loop.

Now that we've done that, we have to tell the panel what is this device, because right now it doesn't know there's a door, a window, a motion. It doesn't know how to respond to this device and it doesn't know how to talk to this device. By selecting the "Device Type" and selecting "Motion Sensor" we're telling the system this particular serial number is assigned to a motion, and from there we have the option for response type. Response type is a selectable option for the various ways that this device can communicate back to the panel. When this device is triggered, the response side will tell the panel how to act.

In our case, 90% of the time for a motion, you're going to want to set at interior follower or interior with the light. Interior follower is the most popular selection. What interior followers says is, first of all because it's interior, when the system is armed to stay mode, meaning we're in the home, the motion will be turned off. Automatically, the panel will bypass that zone. Any faults of this zone will not be seen by the panel. Therefore we're not setting off false alarms as we walk throughout our house in the stay mode. When we are into away mode, then the sensor is live and active and ready to go, because of course we're out of the house. If there's motion at that time, we would like to know that there's an alarm.

So, the follower aspect of Interior versus the one that was with delay. The "with delay" will always have a delay. When it's activated, you'll have 30 seconds to get to the keypad and turn it off before you hear the alarm. When you do follower, it would be an instant alarm. So, as soon as there's motion, the siren goes off unless we are going through a delay zone first. So, if we walked through our front door, which is a delay zone, the panel have the 30 seconds. It will beep and alert you. Okay, you need to type in your code before the alarm goes off. If you then walk through your living room motion on the way to the keypad, instead of it instantly going off, which would cause a false alarm, it knows to follow the delay of the front door and therefore it automatically knows that we're still in the delay period. As long as we disarm the system in time, there's no alarm triggered. So "Interior Follower" is the most popular selection for a motion.

We want to name the motion from there to say where we're going to install it. In this case, we're going to put it on our family room. So, if we select "F", we can see it selects the very first "F" word in the library of the available words I can speak. If we hit the down arrow, we can cycle down until we see family room. So, click done and we blocked it in. Family room motion sensor, it will say all four of those words. It will speak whatever is into zone descriptor one. We could have selected a zone descriptor two if we wanted family room west motion, family room east motion. In our case, we only have one family room motion so we're going to leave it as family room.

And then the last three selections are toggle options but we have alarm report. This says, do we want an alarm activation from this device to go through and report to a central station? In our case, we do. Our system is monitored and then we do want to know when it goes off. So, we're going to leave it "alarm report yes". Chime is disabled. Typically, you don't want a chime on a motion because a chime would be used for doors and windows to indicate they're opening. As we walk through our house, we don't want this thing beeping at us and saying family room motion, every time we move in the room. That would get annoying and we'll also drain the battery.

Supervision is supervised. That just means that the panel will check and see that this device with this serial number is checking in properly. It does that check every 12 hours and, if for some reason, the panel was not seeing the device, after the 12-hour period, it would indicate a supervision fault and then you would know you have an issue to address for the motion. Perhaps it's out of range or installed in a spot in the home where there's interference back to the panel, or perhaps the device has been completely destroyed and therefore the panel is not seeing it. So, the supervision will tell you and make sure that the device is active when you need it to be.

So, we save it to lock in our settings. So, now that we're on the home screen and we have our device enrolled, if we hold it up and we mock move in front of it, as soon as the light comes on, we get a fault. As soon as the light goes away, the panel goes back ready to on. So, the fault indicates that the device is being activated. You'll notice it's not saying "family room motion" because there's no chime. It's just giving us the "not ready." It does give us an indication of the zone that's in fault once it's faulted so we know family room is the device where there's motion and we need to make sure that everyone is perfectly still in the house, or that we have no one in the family room hiding, and that would let us arm the system. So once there's no motion, it goes ready to arm. And we can arm our system.

So, that is the 5800PIR-RES programming to a LYNX Touch L5200 system. We invite you to subscribe to our YouTube channel and if you have any questions on the 5800 PIR-RES or the 5200 panel or any questions at all, please email us at support@alarmgrid.com.


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