Programming the 5800COMBO to the L7000 Panel
In this video, Jorge shows users how to program a Honeywell 5800COMBO to a Honeywell L7000 Panel. The 5800COMBO is a multi-purpose life-safety device that responds to smoke, heat and deadly carbon monoxide gas. It also includes a built-in freeze detector for responding to unusually low temperatures.
In order to get full functionality out of a Honeywell 5800COMBO, it will need to be programmed to multiple system zones. Each zone will serve a different purpose for the sensor, and each is necessary for achieving complete device functionality. However, if a user does not require a certain function of the 5800COMBO, then they will not have to program for that zone. In total, the sensor can use up to five zones on the L7000. These are smoke/heat detection, CO detection, low-temperature detection, supervision and end of product life.
The heat sensor inside the 5800COMBO is a fixed-temperature device that activates at 135 degrees Fahrenheit. There is no rate of rise temperature in the 5800COMBO. The smoke detector is a photoelectric sensor that activates when an internal light is refracted due to airborne particles. To prevent false alarms, an infrared (IR) sensor will scan the area for ambient light levels and other signs of a fire, such as flame flickers. The CO sensor responds to unusual high levels of CO gas that could cause serious harm or death. The low temperature sensor responds at 41 degrees or lower.
The two other zones on the 5800COMBO are for supervision and end of product life. Supervision involves having the panel listen for RF check-in signals that make sure the device is live and within signal range. End of product life is ten years, at which point the CO detector will stop working, and the device will need to be replaced. The sensor also has two test buttons for testing the smoke/heat and CO detection sensors respectively. There's also a built-in 85 dB sounder for alerting those to a life-threatening situation.
Note: When Jorge mentions enabling supervision in zone programming, he incorrectly mentions that this enables tamper and low battery supervision. However supervision for these conditions is always enabled. Supervision actually refers to the panel listening for RF check-in signals from the device and alerting the user if enough check-in signals are absent within a period of time.
adi wires i'm george from alarm grid today we're gonna be going over how to program a 5800 combo in to an l 7000 so the 5800 combo it's a combo detector that does both smoke and heat and the co and it also has an option to do freeze detection so if the temperature drops below 41 degrees fahrenheit then the sensor will actually notify you now this this 5800 combo if i'm just gonna hold it up right here you're gonna see it has a smoke test button and it has a sealed test button this is gonna come in handy whenever you guys are testing the sensor out and you guys want to basically make sure that the signals are being sent to the central station these are the buttons that you're gonna want to use and i'll show you guys how to use that in just one second first thing i want to do is go ahead and get it programmed into the system so you need to make sure you put your l7000 into the programming mode so to do that i'm gonna start off on the home screen so i'm just gonna click the home button real quick because this is more than likely where you're gonna start this is our home screen on the l7000 you want to hit security you're gonna hit more in the bottom right hand corner then you're gonna hit tools once you hit tools the system is gonna ask you for a code you need to make sure you use the installer code mine is defaulted at for one one two yours could be different depending if you or your company has changed it so you want to make sure you use the correct one so i go to tools i enter in four one one two and then i'm taken to a screen where it gives me the option or sorry I'm taken to a screen where it gives me these options if you're taken to a different screen it's cuz you're not using the correct installer code so make sure you get this screen here after you're here hit program then you're gonna make your way over to zones and then hit add new add new basically if you have a whole bunch of zones already learned in it just grabs the next available zone for you that way you don't have to scroll through the page and see what's available you just hit add new and it'll automatically choose the zone for you once I'm here you just go to serial number now that you're in the serial number field it's gonna ask you to enter in the code it's gonna ask you to enter in the serial number for this detector most sensors you just fault and they're actually trip you would think that if you press these buttons on here they would actually automatically learn the serial number in there as well however they do not this is actually gonna start the Annunciation and the test from the speaker in the combo so what instead what we're gonna do is we're gonna manually enter in the serial number that's on the back of the 5800 combo if you see here there's a close it shows you twist counterclockwise I'm sorry to close it you twist clockwise to open it you twist counterclockwise I'm gonna twist it counterclockwise my cover falls off and then right here I'm gonna have the back of my 5800 combo you see how the ford lithium CR 123 123 a batteries and then up on the right-hand side on this big sticker you actually see the smoked serial number and the CL serial number I'm gonna go to close-up up this in a second so you'll see that the smoke and seal serial number are basically the same it's just a serial number the last digit at the very end is one digit higher than the smoke one alright so we're gonna go ahead and type it in I have the zero zero seven one nine five now keep in mind this is just for the smoke if you're gonna be doing Co you have to do it for the seal again if you if you're doing this for a freeze you have to do another zone with the same serial number again I'm gonna show you guys all of that in a second so this one I'm doing my smoke detector as my first zone so I typed in the serial number zero zero seven one nine five I hit done for the smoke and heat I'm gonna leave it as loop one for the zone description I'll go ahead and put it as I'm gonna hit clear and I'll type in living room sorry I'll type in living room for the device type it is a smoke detector so we need to hit smoke for the response type you can do fire no verification or fire with verification what that means is fire no verification means that as soon as smoke enters this chamber right here the system automatically sends the fire signal onto the panel what the fire with verification does is let's say you have this in the kitchen and let's say you're cooking something and the smoke from the pan goes up to the smoke you have 30 seconds to clear the smoke because once the sensor detects it it gives you a 30 seconds again to check and if the chamber is still filled with smoke that's when it sends the fire signal down so fire no verification it automatically sends it fire with verification it gives you 30 seconds to clear the chamber and then it'll actually check again to see if there's still smoke in there so that'll probably be useful if you're installing this in a kitchen all right I'm gonna do fire no verification just because I'm putting this in the living room and alarm report again you want to make sure that's set to yes especially if you're being monitored by a Central Station if you set it to no that means the alarm that this sensor sets off will not be reported to the Central Station so make sure that it's set to yes supervision you do want to make sure it's supervised supervised means that basically if it there's a low trouble if there's a low battery if somebody messes with the tamper it'll report that over to the panel and most importantly after you're done editing everything you want to make sure that you hit save so right here I've programmed in my living room smoke detector I'm gonna leave the cover off just because I'm gonna do a CO detector next and I need to know the serial number so I'm gonna hit add new again you go to serial number now my CL serial number is one digit higher so it's zero zero seven one nine six I hit done my loop number is gonna stay as one as well my zone description I'm gonna go ahead and type in living room again because they are in the same location I'll hit done for the device type this is where you got to switch it to carbon monoxide yes response type will automatically set to carbon monoxide again alarm report you want to set to yes super you want to set - yes and you hit safe now I have my smoke Nico let's say I wanted to do the freeze detection remember freeze detection uses the first serial number which is the same server number that smoke does except it uses loop 3 I'm gonna show you guys that now I'm gonna oh sorry I'm just gonna go ahead add in you serial number so that's zero zero seven one nine five that's the first serial number you're gonna switch this to a loop three the zone description we can type in freeze for the device type let's see if there's a temperature you can put the temperature or environmental I'm gonna put a temperature and the response type automatically goes to 24-hour auxilary which means that once the freezer section goes off the auxiliary siren will go off on the panel as well it won't be a full on all sirens going off it'll actually just be the actual keypad I believe alarm report yes supervision yes and then you just hit save now we have three of these programmed in we have a smoke CO and a freeze detection there's actually two more that you can do which is actually using loop two for either of the serial numbers so if you use loop two for smoke and seal it actually does a maintenance and if you do loop two for the Co it will actually do end-of-life so usually these last up to ten years which means that if you have this have this the sensor or the if you have the fifty or in your combo program until panel and you have it set to a loop three and you have the I'm sorry if you have the CL detector serial number and you have it on loop two then the panel will actually notify you when these need to be replaced so I guess it has a countdown and after about eight to ten years it will actually notify you through the panel it'll have a trouble message saying that you need to replace your 5800 combo detector so we have our zones program then I'm gonna go in and put the back cover on before I get a tamper because if I exit programming and the back covers off I would definitely get a tamper so now that it's here I'm gonna hit the back arrow key all the way out to my home screen Hey yes to confer it's gonna allow if you want to is gonna ask you if you want to allow the Installer to re-enter programming you always want to make sure that you say yes to that all right I already hit yes so I hit the back arrow key one more time and my system is not ready to arm now you notice that I didn't have to program in a tamper that's because it automatically gets programmed in if I release the cover and I take this off if you guys are ever changing batteries or anything like that make sure your system is gonna go into a tamper mode see tamper three living room freeze and it'll also have the smoke detector because this is all three all three zones if you want to shut the sister quite the system down just go ahead and tap on the screen anywhere it's gonna give you the option to do this to disarm that's to clear the tamper remember to clear tamper you do have to disarm twice and what you got to do is fix the issue so if the back plate was off you put the back plate on lock it into place and you hit disarm you enter in the master code or any user code and you have to do this twice and you have clear the tamper now I'm gonna show you guys how to test the actual smoke and co so for the smoke detection remember the two buttons I showed you earlier smoke is to the to your left if you're looking at the sensor and the co is to your right if you're looking at the sensor obviously if you're looking at in the camera it's the probably the other way around so I'm gonna go ahead and hit the smoke button you only got it press and release if you hold it down it's gonna give you the battery level on everything like that all you got to do is just press and release so Preston releasing I Trina gives you the battery life and now it's saying in five seconds is gonna send a test signal so it sends the signal over to the panel and that automatically saw it sets off a fire now if you're being monitored by a central station and you're doing this to get a certificate of alarm for that make sure that you call the central station first and you let them know to place your system on test that way whenever you send this signal over to the panel and the central station receives it they don't send the fire department out make sure you have your account on test with the central station before testing this out especially if you're being monitored by a central station now that we tested the the smoke you obviously saw the panel went into a smoke alarm the sensor went off and the panel went off same thing for the Co you just press and release it'll tell you the status of the Co it'll send the co detection over to the panel you'll see here oops sorry once the alarm goes off you can actually go ahead and disarm that with your master code so before we let you to giving me the option to disarm if you guys do not see a disarm feature on there if you just hit the house button right here twice it'll actually bring up the keypad and it will allow you to clear that seal detection right so now we've set that we've tested the smoke we've tested the co and if you want to test a freeze detection you can go ahead and pop this into a I've seen people throw it into a freezer I've seen people grab a bag of ice and place it on the desk and then you just place the sensor on top and then once the assistance the sensor gets cold enough below 41 degrees it'll report the freeze trouble down to the panel now that was just a quick quick video on how to program in the 5800 and your combo to the l7000 and how to test it if you guys do have any questions feel free to email us at support at alarm grid comm if you guys found this video helpful make sure that you hit like underneath subscribe to the YouTube channel and enable the notifications so whenever we upload new content you guys do get notified I'm George I'll see you guys next time