Programming the 5800COMBO to the Lyric Controller

Programming the 5800COMBO to the Lyric Controller


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In this video, Jorge demonstrates how to program a Honeywell 5800COMBO to a Honeywell Lyric Security System. This is a multi-purpose life-safety device that responds to smoke/heat, CO gas and unusually low temperatures. Each function will require its own wireless zone on the Lyric Controller System.

The 5800COMBO is a Honeywell 5800 Series Sensor that was designed with the Honeywell LYNX Touch Systems in mind. But since it communicates at a compatible 345 MHz signal, it will work with the Honeywell Lyric as well. However, Honeywell actually released a SiXCOMBO recently that was designed specifically for the Lyric. It uses 128-bit AES encryption for increased wireless security. However, the downside to the SiXCOMBO is that it does not do low-temperature detection. Only the 5800COMBO offers this feature.

Each function that is used with the 5800COMBO will require its own system zone. There are five possible functions, including smoke/heat detection, CO detection, freeze detection, supervision and end of product life. Although each programming option is technically optional, a user will want to use all five zones for maximum functionality. A user should keep this in mind when planning out zones for the sensor.

The smoke sensor uses photoelectric technology to accurately respond to airborne particles. The heat sensor responds to temperatures of 135 degrees Fahrenheit or higher. An infrared (IR) sensor helps prevent false alarms by scanning for factors like flame flickers. In order for a fire alarm to occur, the smoke detector must activate, along with either the heat sensor, IR sensor or CO sensor. As for the freeze sensor, it will activate at temperatures of 41 degrees or lower to alert the user. The device also features a built-in 85 dB sounder for alerting those inside the building.

The Freeze Detection feature works by piggy-backing the low temperature message onto the next smoke supervision signal sent to the system. For this reason, it can be up to 90 minutes between the time a low temperature alert is detected, and when it shows on the panel.

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Hey, DIYers. I'm George from Alarm Grid. Today, we're going over how to program in a 5800COMBO to the Lyric alarm system. So the 5800COMBO combo is a combo detector that does both smoke/heat and CO detector, and it also has the option to do freeze detection. What that does is, if the temperatures reach below 41 degrees Fahrenheit, the sensor will actually send a freeze detection trouble over to the panel. So first thing we want to go ahead and make sure is that the Lyric system is going to be in programming mode. So to do this, if we're at the home screen on the Lyric system, you go to Security. You go to Tools. And after you go to Tools, it's going to ask you to enter in a code. You want to make sure that you use your installer code. My panel is defaulted right now, so it's actually 4112. Yours could possibly be different if you or your monitoring company has changed it. So you want to make sure you hit Tools, my installer code. Then we go over to Program. And keep in mind, if you guys enter in the code and you're not taken to that same exact screen, that's because you must not be using the correct code. The installer code takes you to that same exact screen. If you're taken to any other screen other than that, then you're not using the correct code and you need to get the correct installer code to get it. So now that we're in the System Programming menu, we make our way over to Zones. Now, the 5800COMBO, remember I said it does smoke heat, it does CO, it does freeze detection. There's also two other things that it does if you use loop 2 on the smoker seal. Loop 2 on the smoke will actually have a maintenance trouble. And then loop two for the CO will have an end of life. So whenever the sensor needs to be replaced, it will actually notify the panel, which will then notify you to replace the sensor. Now, we're going to learn in three of the zones today. We're going to do smoke, smoke and heat. We're going to do CO. And we're going to freeze. So the first one I'm going to go ahead and do is the smoke. I hit Add New And I go to Serial Number. Now, when you go to enter in the serial number, normally what you would do with the sensors is you would fault them or you would press the button, and the serial number would automatically learn in and populate into the screen, as well as the loop. However, for this one, when I press these buttons, it actually just goes into the test mode and gives you the battery life, et cetera, all the other settings. It lets you know whether the sensor is OK. So what we actually have to do is we have to take this backplate off. If you see here, there's actually a close, and there's an open. Close is clockwise, open is counterclockwise. So we just need to twist it counterclockwise. The cover falls off. And on that back, there's a sticker there that's going to have the serial number for both the smoke and for the CO. That's the thing, one little thing that you guys should realize. The smoke and CO serial numbers are one digit difference. So they both have the first same few numbers. But the last digit, the CO, is one digit higher than that of the smoke. So you'll get a zoom-in on this in just a second. And after you've figured out which one you want to do, I'm doing the smoke for my first one. So I'm going to enter in smoke serial number. So mine is 0007195, 0007195. You just confirm. All right, you hit Done. For the loop number, you want to make sure you leave it as 1 if you're going to be doing smoke and heat. For the zone description, I'm going to go ahead and put this in the living room. So I'll type in-- sorry. [INAUDIBLE] right there. So you notice, as I started typing, it actually gave me a couple of suggestions. You guys, if you just keep typing, it will skip past those suggestions. So if I want the living room, I went ahead and typed in "living." And then it gave me the option to do living room. If you guys are doing custom ones, keep in mind if they're not coming up in the vocabulary, the system won't actually enunciate it. So they do have to be words in the vocabulary dictionary of the system in order for the system to enunciate these zones. So I have mine set to Living Room. For the device type-- sorry, I'm going to Cancel. For the device type, I'm going to go ahead and set it to a Smoke Detector. The response type, it gives the options of Fire No Verification or Fire with Verification. What the Fire No Verification does is that, if this smoke chamber here fills up with smoke, the sensor immediately sends the signal over to the panel. Fire with Verification, what that does, smoke fills up the chamber. This actually comes in handy if you're installing this in a kitchen and you're cooking, and the smoke from the pan goes up to the detector. If it's a false smoke, obviously, then the system, what it does is, it detects the smoke in the chamber. And then you have 30 seconds until the sensor checks again to see if the smoke is still in there. If the smoke is still there, it then sends the smoke signal over to the panel. So if you're doing this in a kitchen, you may want to set this to a Fire with Verification. Sometimes when you're cooking, there is a lot of smoke that can come up from the pans. So if you saw in the description, I actually had this in the living room. So I'm going to do it as Fire No Verification. Alarm Report, you want to make sure you set that to Yes, especially if you're being monitored by central station. If you set that to No, whenever the sensor goes off for that zone, it will not report. Hence, Alarm Report, you want to make sure it's set to Yes. Supervision, you want to make sure that's also set to Supervised. The other option would be Unsupervised. So Supervise is basically going to let you know whenever the system has a low battery, whenever it's been tampered with, etc. And the most important thing is, after you have all of this done, you want to make sure you hit Save. Yes, so now I have my living room smoke detector. Let's go ahead and do the CO detector now. So remember, you hit Add New, or you can choose whatever zone you want. I'll go ahead and do Add New. And again, go into the Serial Number field, serial number. And now you have to use the second serial number, which, remember, is just one digit higher than the smoke one. So mine is 0007196, 0007196. I hit done. I'm going to leave it as loop 1, because I am doing CO detector. So I'm leaving it as loop 1. Zone Description. Since my smoke was in the living room, that means the CO must be in the living room as well. So I'll type in-- I missed the letter "I." All right, typed in "living room." Device Type, this is where you're going to switch it to Carbon Monoxide Detector. The response type automatically gets set to Carbon Monoxide. Alarm Report, again, make sure that's set to Yes. And Supervise, make sure it's set to Yes. And you hit Save. And then the last one I'm going to do is going to be the Freeze Detection, which, remember, it uses the smoke serial number. So I hit Add New. Serial Number 0007195. Let me just confirm. That is correct. I hit Done. The loop number, to make it a freeze detection, this is where you need to switch the loop number to loop 3. So my loop is set to 3. I'm going to go in and type in-- instead of living room, since this is going to be freeze detection, I'll type in "freeze." For the device type, I'm going to go ahead and set it to Temperature. It automatically sets the response up to a 24-hour auxiliary. The Alarm Report, if you wanted to report to the central station, you can. Remember, this is just a freeze detection. So it's not like the central station is going to call the authorities or the fire department, or anything like that. But you can always have them call you if you'd like. So if you want them to call you whenever the system detects of freeze signal, you can go ahead and leave the alarm report to Yes. If you don't really care for the central station calling, you can always just tap to No. I'll leave it as Yes, just in case. And Supervise to make sure you leave it as supervised. You hit Save. Now I have my CO, smoke, and freeze. You want to make sure you go ahead and put the back cover on. Because if you exit while the back cover is off, your system will probably go into a tamper. And I'll show you guys that in a second. Remember, to put it on, you just place it. And then you twist it clockwise, and it locks into place. Hit the back arrow key all the way out to the home screen. Now I'm going to show you guys the tamper on it I twist it counterclockwise. I take the cover off. And then the system should go into a tamper for all three zones. Tamper living room. Tamper freeze. So it should have 3, 4, and 5. 3, 4, 5. If you want to make the system quiet down, tap a button. Now, remember, to clear tamper, you actually have to fix the issue first. So if the backplate was off, twist it back on. My tamper is good. And now I'm at the screen. If you're at this screen right here, if you just tap the Home button-- if you tap it twice, actually, it'll bring up the keypad for you to enter in your code and to clear the trouble. I enter in my master code. You can use any user code. And you have to do that twice. So again, I tap the Home. And I tap it one more time. Remember, it's two taps, and then master code. And then the system will go into a Ready to Arm. Now, remember the two buttons I showed you earlier, the smoke test and the CO test? The smoke test button is going to set off a smoke test for the panel, and the CO tests will set off the CO. Now, it's very important that if you're doing this, to send the signals down to the central station, you want to make sure you call your central station first to place your system on test, especially if you're doing CO. So you call your central station. You place your account on Test to let them know that you're going to be testing smoke, fire, and CO. And once your account is on Test, you simply just press and release one of the buttons. And it'll send the signal. I'll do the smoke one first. Smoke sensors good. Battery life is at least 12 months. The alarm will now sound in five seconds. Press Test to cancel. After my alarm goes off, I'm going to go ahead and disarm because it, because it's going to get loud. [HIGH-PITCHED BEEPING] And then you want to make sure you disarm twice. Yes, so there's a disarm button right here. Enter in your master code or user code, and it goes back and ready to arm. Same thing with the CO. You press and release. CO sensors good. Remaining sensor life is at least 12 months. Battery life is at least 12 months. The alarm will now sound in five seconds. Press Test to cancel. Again, when the alarm sounds, it sends a signal immediately. You then disarm the system. [BEEPING] You disarm it once. And then you disarm it twice. Remember, there's two ways of getting to that keypad to disarm. You can either-- like the first time, when I did the fire, there was a disarm button on the actual screen right here. Or if you press the Home button twice while the system is in Alarm mode, it will bring up the keypad and you can actually just type in, or punch in, your code through there as well. So that was the easiest way to test smoke CO. And then for freeze, you can either throw the sensor into the freezer. Another thing you could do is just grab a Ziploc bag of ice, put a Ziploc bag on top of the sensor. And then once a sensor gets cold enough, if you want to make sure that it's reporting the freeze detection correctly, you just have to wait a couple of minutes. The sensor will cool, and then it'll send the free signal over to the panel. And that is just a quick video on how to program in the 5800COMBO into the Lyric panel. And you also find out how to test it. So make sure that you guys, if you have any more questions, you email us at support@alarmgrid.com. If you found the video helpful, make sure you hit Like underneath. Subscribe to the YouTube channel. And enable the notifications, so whenever we upload new content, you guys are notified I'm George. I'll see you guys next time.


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