Programming the 5800COMBO to the Lyric Controller
In this video, Jorge demonstrates how to program a Honeywell 5800COMBO to a Honeywell Lyric Security System. This is a multi-purpose life-safety device that responds to smoke/heat, CO gas and unusually low temperatures. Each function will require its own wireless zone on the Lyric Controller System.
The 5800COMBO is a Honeywell 5800 Series Sensor that was designed with the Honeywell LYNX Touch Systems in mind. But since it communicates at a compatible 345 MHz signal, it will work with the Honeywell Lyric as well. However, Honeywell actually released a SiXCOMBO recently that was designed specifically for the Lyric. It uses 128-bit AES encryption for increased wireless security. However, the downside to the SiXCOMBO is that it does not do low-temperature detection. Only the 5800COMBO offers this feature.
Each function that is used with the 5800COMBO will require its own system zone. There are five possible functions, including smoke/heat detection, CO detection, freeze detection, supervision and end of product life. Although each programming option is technically optional, a user will want to use all five zones for maximum functionality. A user should keep this in mind when planning out zones for the sensor.
The smoke sensor uses photoelectric technology to accurately respond to airborne particles. The heat sensor responds to temperatures of 135 degrees Fahrenheit or higher. An infrared (IR) sensor helps prevent false alarms by scanning for factors like flame flickers. In order for a fire alarm to occur, the smoke detector must activate, along with either the heat sensor, IR sensor or CO sensor. As for the freeze sensor, it will activate at temperatures of 41 degrees or lower to alert the user. The device also features a built-in 85 dB sounder for alerting those inside the building.
The Freeze Detection feature works by piggy-backing the low temperature message onto the next smoke supervision signal sent to the system. For this reason, it can be up to 90 minutes between the time a low temperature alert is detected, and when it shows on the panel.
adi wires i'm george from alarm grid today we're going over how to program in a 5800 combo to the lyric alarm system so the 5800 combo is a combo detector that does both smoky and seal detector and it also has the option to do freeze detection what that does is if it the temperatures reached below 41 degrees fahrenheit the sensor will actually send a freeze detection trouble over to the panel so first thing we want to go ahead and make sure is that the lyric system is going to be in programming mode so to do this hit you hit if we're at the home screen on the lyric system you go to security you go to tools and after you go to tools it's gonna ask you to enter in and it's gonna ask you to answer in a code you want to make sure that you use your installer code my panel is defaulted right now so it's actually for one one two yours could possibly be different if you or your monitoring company has changed it so you want to make sure you hit tools my installer code then we go over to program and keep in mind if you guys enter in the code and you're not taken to that same exact screen that's because you must not be using the correct code the installer code takes you to that same exact screen if you're taken to any other screen other than that then you're not using the correct code and you need to get the correct installer code to get it all right so now that we're in the system programming menu we make our way over to zones now the 5800 combo remember I said it does smoke heat it does co it does freeze detection there's also two other things that it does if you used loop 2 on the smoker Co loop 2 on the smoke will actually have a maintenance trouble and then loop 2 for the Co will have an end-of-life so whenever the whenever the sensor needs to be replaced it'll actually notify the panel which will then notify you to replace the sensor now we're gonna learn in three of the 3 of the zones today we're gonna do smoke smoke and heat we're gonna do Co and we're gonna do freeze alright so the first one I'm gonna go ahead and do is the smoke I hit add new and I go to serial number now when you go to enter in the serial number you would normally think or normally what you would do with the sensors is you would fold them or you would press a button and the serial number would automatically learn in and populate into the screen as well as the loop however for this one when I press these buttons it actually just goes into the test mode gives you the battery life etc all the other settings that lets you know whether the sensor is okay so what we actually have to do is we have to take this back plate off yeah if you see here there's actually a clothes and there's an open closes clockwise open is counter clockwise so we just need to twist it counterclockwise the cover falls off and on that back there's a sticker there that's gonna have the serial number for both the smoke and for the seal that's the thing one little thing that you guys should realize the smoke and seals serial numbers are one digit difference yeah so they both have the first same few numbers but the last digit the co is one digit higher than that of the smoke so I'll you'll get a zoom in of this in just a second and after you've figured out which one you want to do I'm doing a smoke for my first one so I'm gonna enter in my smoke serial number so mine is zero zero zero seven one nine five zero zero zero seven one nine five you just confirm all right you hit done for the loop number you want to make sure you leave it as one if you're gonna be doing smoking heat for the zone description I'm gonna go ahead and put this in the living room so I'll type in sorry his head right there so you notice as I started typing it actually gave me a couple of suggestions you guys if you just keep typing it'll skip past those suggestions so if I wanted living room I went ahead and typed in living and then it gave me the option to do living room if you guys are doing custom ones keep in mind if they're not coming up in the vocabulary this someone actually enunciate it so they do have to be words in the vocabulary dictionary of the system in order for the system to enunciate these zones so I have mine set to a living room for the device type sorry I'm gonna hit cancel for the device type I'm gonna go ahead and set it to a smoke detector the response type it gives you the options of fire no verification or fire with verification what the fire no verification does is that if this smoke chamber here fills up with smoke the sensor immediately sends the signal over to the panel fire with verification what that does smoke fills up the chamber this actually comes in handy if you're installing this in a kitchen and you're cooking and the smoke from the pan colds up to the detector if it's a false smoke obviously then it does system what it does is it detects the smokes on the it detects the smoke in the chamber and then you have 30 seconds until the sensor checks again to see if the smoke is still in there if the smoke is still there it then sends the smoke signal over to the panel so if you're doing this in a kitchen you may want to set this to a fire with verification as sometimes when you're cooking it there is a lot of smoke that can come up from the pans so I like that if you saw in the description I actually have this in the living room so I'm gonna do it as fire no verification alarm report you want to make sure you set that to yes especially if you're being monitored by Central Station if you set that to know whenever this smoke where whenever the sensor goes off for that zone it will not report hence alarm report you want to make sure it's set to yes supervision you want to make sure that's also set to supervise the other option would be unsupervised so supervised is basically gonna let you know whenever the system has a low battery whenever it's been tampered with etc and most important thing is after you have all of this done you want to make sure you hit save yes so now I have my living room smoke detector let's go ahead and do the seal detector now so remember you hit add new or you can choose whatever zone you want I'm gonna I'll go ahead and do add new and I again going to the serial number field serial number and now you have to use the second serial number which remember is just one digit higher than the then the smoke one so mine is actually zero zero zero seven one nine six zero zero zero seven one nine six I hit done I'm gonna leave it as loop one because I am used I'm doing seal detector so I'm leaving as loop one his own description since my smoke was in the living room that means the CEO must be in the living room as well so I'll type in whoops I missed a letter I alright typed in living room device type this is where you're gonna switch it to carbon monoxide detector the response type automatically gets set to carbon monoxide alarm report again make sure that's set to yes and supervised to make sure it's set to yes and you hit safe and then the last one I'm gonna do is going to be the freeze detection which remember uses it's the smoke serial number so I hit add new serial number zero zero zero seven one nine five let me just confirm that is correct I hit done the loop number to make it a freeze detection this is where you need to switch the loop number to loop three so my loop is set to three I'm gonna go ahead and type in instead of living room since this is gonna be freeze detection I'll type in freeze for the device type I'm gonna go ahead and set it to temperature it automatically sets the response type to a 24-hour auxilary the alarm report if you want it to report to the Central Station you can remember this is just a freeze detection so it's not like the Central Station is uh gonna call the authorities or the fire department or anything like that but you can always have them call you if you'd like so if you want them to call you whenever the system the text of freeze signal you can go ahead and leave the alarm report - yes if you don't really care for the Central Station calling you you can always just tap - no I will leave it as just as yes just in case and supervised to make sure you leave it as supervised you hit save now I have my seal smoke and freeze if you want to make sure you go ahead and put the back cover on because if you exit while the back cover is off your system will probably go into a tamper and I'll show you guys that in a second remember to put it on you just place it and then you twist it clockwise and it locks into place hit the back arrow key all the way out to the home screen now I'm going to show you guys the tamper on it I twist it counterclockwise I take the cover off and then the system should go into a tamper for all three zones tamper living room tamper freeze so you should have three four and five three four five if you want to make the system quiet down tap a button now remember to clear tamper you actually have to fix the issue first so if the backplate was off twist it back on my tamper is good and now I'm at the screen if you're at this screen right here if you just tap the home button it'll if you tap it twice actually it'll bring up the keypad for you to enter in your code and to clear the trouble I enter in my master code you can use any user code and you have to do that twice so again I tap the home and I tap it one more time remember it's two taps and then master code and then the system will go into are ready to arm now remember the two buttons I showed you earlier the smoke test and the CL test the smoke test button is going to set off a smoke test for the panel and the CL test will set off the seal now it's very important that if you're doing this to send the signals down to the Central Station you want to make sure you call your central station first to place your system on test especially if you're doing Co alright so you call your Central Station you place your account on test to let them know that you're going to be smoke fire and co and once your account is on test you simply just press and release one of the buttons and it'll send a signal I'll do the smoke one first after my alarm goes off I'm gonna go ahead and disarm it it's gonna get loud C fire and then you want to make sure you disarm twice yeah so there's a disarm button right here enter in your master code or user code and it goes bang get so ready to arm same thing with the Co you press and release again when the alarm sounds it sends the signal immediately you didn't disarm the system you disarmed it once and then you disarmed it twice remember there's two ways of getting to that keypad to disarm you can either like the first time when I did the fire there was a disarm button on the actual screen right here or if you press the home button twice while the system is an alarm mode it'll bring up the keypad and you can actually just type in or punch in your code through there as well so that was a the easiest way to test smoke seal and then for fries you can either throw the sensor into the freezer you can actually another thing you can do is just grab a ziploc bag of ice put the ziplock bag on top of the sensor and then once the sensor gets cold enough if you want to make sure that it's reporting the freeze detection correctly you just have to wait a couple of minutes the sensor will cool and then it'll send the freeze signal over to the panel and yet that is just a quick video on how to program in the smoke or the 5800 combo into the lyric panel and you also you also find out how to test it so make sure that you guys if you have any more questions you email us at support at alarm grid comm if you found the video helpful make sure you hit like underneath subscribe to the YouTube channel and enable the notifications so whenever we upload new content you guys are notified I'm George I'll see you guys next time