Honeywell 5800C2W

Hardwire to Wireless System 9-Zone Conversion Module

Honeywell 5800c2w hardwire to wireless system 9 zone conversion module

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A simple to install, 9-zone wired to wireless converter. This unit will allow a homeowner with wired zones to use Honeywell's wireless security systems with almost zero hassle. If you are are looking to revitalize an old system with new technology, the 5800C2W is just what you've been looking for.
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For those interested in a wireless system, who have a pre-wired home, the 5800C2W offers the perfect solution. With 9 wired zone terminals available for use with the sensors of a 12-volt, wired security system, this unit will allow users with wired sensors the freedom to use those sensors with Honeywell's state of the art wireless systems like the Lynx Touch 5100 or the Lynx Plus 3000.

For those trying to decide between a wired system versus a wireless system, this unit makes the decision painless, allowing an user to get the incredible flexibility of wireless sensors and systems with the capabilities of using wired sensors. The system can power wired PIR motion detectors and glass break detectors. However it will not translate life safety devices such as wired smokes, heats and CO Detectors. These sensors are normally open and the C2W only supports Normally Closed devices.

Although the transformer is included with the 5800C2W there is no cable. We recommend purchasing the LT-Cable separately and using it to conveniently connect the transformer to the C2W. While the transformer looks much like the 300-04705V1 transformer that comes with the LYNX Touch and Lyric Controller, DO NOT use this transformer on the 5800C2W, and DO NOT use the 5800C2W transformer to power those panels. You can purchase the proper Honeywell 300-07052 transformer for the C2W separately if you misplace or damage the included one.

Previous to the release of this device, consumers relied on third party products such as Resolution Products' wired to wireless converter, RE208. For others, the alternative was to use a transmitter such as the 5816 which would allow wired zones to be converted into wireless. The individual transmitter option is very expensive, though effective. And while the third-party products provide a very nice solution to this problem, it is no match for the unparalleled quality of the Honeywell hardware.

The 5800C2W does not come with a battery, but it is strongly suggested that you add one otherwise a loss of AC power to the unit, would cause all wired zones used by the 5800C2W to become unresponsive. The Ultratech 1240 is a too big for the box, but the units harness is long enough to accommodate a battery from a distance. If you have the original wired tin, this is where the battery would most likely be put. However, if you do not have the original tin, the BW98, Mier brand 7 x 7 inch, beige metal cabinet is the perfect place to store the battery. Do not install the C2W inside the metal cabinet. It will diminish the wireless signal and potentially lead to RF supervision issues.

The 5800C2W module is supervised with a tamper button for when the cover to the unit is removed and for power loss/low battery detection. The unit comes with a small insert for the cover to the unit that has an attached magnet that activates an on-board reed switch so that it can detect if the cover is on or not. When the magnet/cover are not on properly, it will report the tamper trouble on the first set of zone terminals programmed in your Honeywell wireless system. For instance, if you have something wired to the first set of zone terminals on the 5800C2W, the tamper would be reported on the zone for your system programmed for those terminals.

The panel's power supervision reports as a low battery on that same first programmed zone of the 5800C2W. If the 5800C2W power supply is unplugged or you lose power to the outlet, it will report a low battery trouble to the system (on the same zone programmed for the first set of zone terminals used on the module). In addition, if the backup battery drains to 11.2VDC or below (due to an aging battery or because it's in use once AC power is lost), the low battery trouble will also be reported.

The ease and flexibility of the 5800C2W make it the perfect addition to anyone looking to covert their old wired sensors to work with new wireless technology. From the moment it is installed to the time that you use its one-button calibration, there is not even one pre-wired home that will regret the decision to install and utilize this converter.

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Submitted on 08/24/2014

I recently installed the 5800c2w on an old wired system and connected my zones to a Lynx 5100. I wanted to take advantage of the old alarm system and the hidden door jamb wired contacts on each door. I watched the Alarm Grid videos prior to the installation and they were a great help providing everything I needed to set this unit up correctly. The setup was easy and I used the learning mode to set up each zone. The 5800c2w has a good wireless range and I had no problems locating it inside my existing metal alarm box. I would definitely recommend this product to anyone looking to update their old wireless system.

The 5800c2w uses a 12V, 4AH battery.
Can a 12v 7 amp battery backup be used with the 5800C2W?
Great! Glad you were able to get everything situated.
@sterlingdonnelly:disqus My motion sensor was faulting as I was moving about trying to program zones and causing the duplicate serial error. I covered it with a towel to get everything programmed properly.
Thanks for the information! As I said, I'm getting rid of a Vivint panel. I'm sure you know it is actually a 2GIG panel but locked into Vivint so you can't do anything with it if you want to leave Vivint. But, it looks like I will be able to use the 2GIG accessories I have.
Yes, it will work with a 2Gig Z-Wave thermostat. The Nest smoke alarms won't pair into a Lyric through zone programming but you could potentially use an FF345 module (https://www.alarmgrid.com/products/encore-ff345 ) to integrate them.
Ah, yes, I see it now at https://www.alarmgrid.com/products/2gig-take-345 and I've updated that comment to include the information about compatibility with the Lyric system. Frank's initial reply was back before the firmware was released that opened up the 2Gig compatibility. We expect they will release an option for an outdoor siren at some point (the main reason why you'd want House ID technology).
Will the Lyric also work with 2GIG thermostats? Nest smoke alarms?
Who told me the Take-345 won't work with the Lyric? Alarm Grid did! In the discussion section for the 2GIG-TAKE-345, Cynthia said it was only supported by 2GIG panels. That comment is a year old, but, I didn't see any other information on that page to say otherwise. Perhaps you should edit that comment. And/or change the product description. And next time you are on the phone with Honeywell, tell them to provide another firmware update to support home ID technology! (Sorry to beat a dead horse...) Oh, and FYI, I'm replacing a Vivint panel. Which is why I need a new main panel. I will return the 5800C2W. Thanks for the information.
That's a great suggestion and we're going to see about getting a plastic enclosure listed on our site. In the mean time, who told you the Take-345 won't work with the Lyric? The Lyric now supports 2Gig sensors - https://www.alarmgrid.com/blog/2gig-wireless-sensors-now-work-with-the-honeywell-lyric so you shouldn't need to change that out to a 5800C2W. If you want to wait and test the existing TAKE-345 when you get the Lyric and find it works, as it should, you could always contact us for a return on the 5800C2W and your Amazon seller for a return on the plastic case that wouldn't be needed.
Quick question. If this shouldn't be used in a metal cabinet, why don't you sell plastic cabinets? As it so happens, I already have a 2GIG-TAKE-345 which was installed by my previous alarm vendor. And they put it in my current metal box and it works okay. But, since I'm told that the 2GIG-TAKE-345 won't work with the Lyric, I'm stuck buying this Honeywell unit. My guess is it would probably work okay in the metal enclosure since the 2GIG device seems to. But, I went ahead and ordered a plastic enclosure similar to alarm panel enclosures from amazon. Something you might consider selling if you really think this unit shouldn't be in a metal enclosure. So I placed on order my Lyric panel, this board, etc., a few minutes ago.
Ah, yes. Unfortunately, that was one of the few times where a default was needed. If you suspect the issue is with the C2W or the Lyric and easy way to rule that out would be to simply strap the resistor across the zone terminals with the sensor wiring removed and then calibrate the C2W and then try auto-enrolling the zone to the Lyric by disconnecting/re-connecting one leg of the resistor to simulate a door opening/closing. If it learns in that way, the issue is not with the C2W or the Lyric and would be something wrong with the wiring or the sensors. Feel free to call us when you are home if you'd like some assistance.
each of the zones in question are a group of windows and assumed to be wired in series. i have not made any changes since the initial install of the 5800c2w some time ago. i defaulted the panel at the request of your team in order to get the panel to sync with alarmnet. i would certainly have preferred not to default the panel as it was a pain to get the sensors back.
Are both zones multiple sensors wired in series? Did you touch the wiring to the C2W at all in between the last attempt and the new attempt to auto-learn the zones to the Lyric? Also, did you default the Lyric after you activated service with us? If you did, you should email support@alarmgrid.com to have us make sure your account is still setup properly. There are very few times when a full panel default is the recommend course of action.
looking for guidance with issue with involving the 5800c2w and lyric controller. previously there was a zone of window sensors that i could not get discovered. i chalked this up to a potential wiring issue to be addressed later. i recently defaulted lyric requiring rediscovery of zones. the zone that was previously undiscovered now is discovered. a different zone that previously was discovered now is not. this behavior leads me to believe it is not wiring. looking for tips on how to troubleshoot.
Yes, they usually need to be replaced every 3-5 years so I'd recommend getting a new 1240 battery (https://www.alarmgrid.com/products/ultratech-1240 ).
battery is old battery from ADT system, i guess it has to be replaced.
Yes, that would indicate you don't have enough voltage coming in from the backup battery. 5800C2W module troubles are reported on the first programmed zone used by the C2W. Is your battery new and properly connected to the C2W?
No, the 5828V (and 5828) wireless keypads have no screw terminals to accept any wiring from a 5800C2W, so you'll need a K0991 (https://www.alarmgrid.com/products/honeywell-k0991 ) transformer to power each wireless keypad.
im getting a low battery on one of the zones even though its a hardwired zone. Does that just mean that the backup battery for thr 5800c2w is low? does the 5800c2w charge the backup battery?
Is the 5800c2w capable of powering auxiliary RF panels like the 5828v? If so how many can I power off the one power supply that comes with the 5800c2w?
Yes, this will work with any wireless Honeywell or 2Gig alarm system.
Can this be used with the Lyric Controller? The description only mentions Lynx.
No, it doesn't do zone doubling so you would just need to use multiple 5800C2Ws if you need more than 9 wired zones.
Does this have zone doubling capability when using with a Lyric or do you need multiple 5800C2W units for more than 9 zones?
No, you should use a separate transformer for each 5800C2W.
I have a need to hookup more than 9 wire zones. Is it possible to use one 5800c2w power supply to power two 5800c2w's?
Which system do you have and how many zones are you trying to wire? You could potentially use the panel's built-in hardwired zone inputs. There's no listed limitation for wired zones to the 5800C2W.
Is there a distance limitation for the loop to connect to the 5800C2W? I have an outbuilding 300' from the house with buried conduit for running wire. I fear the distance is too long for wireless with 300' range when I consider a couple of walls the signal would have to travel through. Will the 5800 C2W work in this application?
The 5800C2W zones do need a resistor but the 5800C2W comes with (9) resistors that will work. Also, it has a resistor calibration mode so that it will work with any resistors that have value of 1k to 10k ohm.
Will this unit require the same EoL resistors like a Vista Panel would?
ok thank you
Yes, that should work. The transformer should be okay in the attic, even with higher temperatures.
im more worried about the temperature in the attic. i live in Houston Texas
25-30 feet and the wire looks like regular lamp wiring. 18 guage
How far is the wire run and what gauge wire was used?
Hello, i took an old panel out of my closet and installed the 5800c2w in its place. can i wire the power adapter for the 5800c2w into the attic like my old alarm panel?
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