How do I address a 4219 Zone Expander to a VISTA?

Honeywell 4219: Setting the Address for a VISTA System

Addressing the 4219 is done through dip switches. Older 4219s have five (5) dip switches while newer models have eight (8). The address and dip switch settings depend on which panel and which zone numbers are being used. We will be discussing addressing for the Vista-15P, Vista-20P, and Vista-21iP panels.

The Vista-15P and Vista-20P series control panels support hardwired expansion through the use of the 4219 8 zone, hardwired expansion module. When adding a 4219 to one of these panels the address to be used is determined by the zone numbers that are being added using that module.

For example, to add zones 9 - 16 on any of these panels, the address for the 4219 should be set to seven (7). This means dip switches 2, 3, and 4 should be OFF, and dip switch 5 should be ON. In 4219s with 8 dip switches, #6 will always be ON for these panels. Dip switch 1 has nothing to do with the address and is used to set whether the first zone on the module, zone 9 in our example, uses a high-speed response (10ms, dip switch 1 OFF) or a normal response (300ms dip switch 1 ON). The settings for these 5 dip switches are the same regardless if you have an old 4219 with five (5) dip switches or one of the newer ones with eight (8). Here's a chart that will help determine addresses and dip switch settings:

Zones Address Dips
9 - 16 07 (1 ON = Normal, OFF = Fast) 2 - OFF, 3 - OFF, 4 - OFF, 5 - ON
17 - 24 08 (1 ON = Normal, OFF = Fast) 2 - ON, 3 - ON, 4 - ON, 5 - OFF
25 - 32* 09 (1 ON = Normal, OFF = Fast) 2 - OFF, 3 - ON, 4 - ON, 5 - OFF
33 - 40* 10 (1 ON = Normal, OFF = Fast) 2 - ON, 3 - OFF, 4 - ON, 5 - OFF
41 - 48* 11 (1 ON = Normal, OFF = Fast) 2 - OFF, 3 - OFF, 4 - ON, 5 - OFF

* These zone numbers are supported on the Vista-20P and Vista-21iP only.

As noted above, dip switch six (6), in 4219s that have it, will always be ON for the Vista-15P, Vista-20P, and Vista-21iP. Dip switches seven (7) and eight (8) are used to determine if these zones will use an End of Line Resistor (EOLR) or be Normally Closed, and whether or not the tamper is enabled or disabled.

Dips Setting
7 ON = Normally Closed zones only, OFF = 2K End of Line Resistor in use
8 ON = Tamper Disabled, OFF = Tamper Enabled (Yes, I know that seems backward)

The older 4219s with only five dip switches have a jumper on the board that determines whether or not the tamper is enabled. If the jumper is on the two pins closest to the center of the board, tamper is disabled, if it is on the two pins closest to the edge of the board, tamper is enabled. These devices also use a 1K resistor instead of a 2K resistor for End of Line supervision. On these models, resistors are required, not optional.

Please Note: There was a brief period of time where 4219s were released that did not support the use of Dip Switch 7 (meaning they ALWAYS used the EOLR) and dip switch 7 should have always been in the ON position. Some of these units were released with newer documentation stating that Dip Switch 7 was in use. On these units, if you turn off dipswitch seven (7) with the EOLR's in place (as the instructions indicate you should), the zones will always be faulted. So, if you seem to have everything set correctly, and the resistors are in place, but your zones continue to show faults, try turning dip switch 7 ON. When changing dip switch settings, it is recommended that you power down, make the change, then power back up.

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when using a zone expander want to set the zones to Aux wired
I'm trying to use the extra contacts on a 6151 keypad with a Vista 15p panel. I've enabled the "Expander" in the keypad at power up and tried a number of different options when attempting to configure it in the Vista15, but nothing comes close to working. (I'm using Compass to configure the Vista15.) However, as I'm not quite sure how those contacts appear to the Vista, those "different options" could just be monkeys on a keyboard, aka, random attempts. Any hints as to how I should configure this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks again for your help. I'll stick to my older expansion modules for now. I wanted the extra zones for some interior contacts for home automation ideas.
I'm glad you were able to resolve check 110 and check 111 as initially reported.
I deleted zone 33 and added it back in and it cleared mu check expansion 110. I'll try the new module again and delete the zone and added it back in.
Thank you for your reply. I tried this and the installer code entries as well. The Keypad beeped a single time for each #05 and #06. But, it did not resolve the check status' I also made sure I was powered down swapping my expansion modules. Odd I put back my working module and the zone is reporting fine. But, now its also reporting Check Expansion 110 after powering back up.
Hey Bob, On the newest models of 4219s, dip switch switch 7 needs to be off for EOL (resistors) supervision. Dip switch can stay on to keep tamper disabled. Leave those that way. Next try entering your Installer's code #05, then enter your Installer's code #06. See if it clears your troubles then.
I also have a new model 4229 which is also exhibiting the same behavior to me. My DIP settings are 12345678 ------------- 10010111 I also used my multimeter to make sure my 1 above showed continuity for each position.
Vista 20-P Panel and I have an 8 dip switch model 4219. I'm using 2K Resistors. I'm setting it to Expansion ID 11. And I configured zone 41 to start with. I can't clear the Check 111 Wire Expansion and Check 41. For the Check 111: I've tried it with the tamper switch 8 in either position. For Check 41 I've tried Switch 7 on and off with 2K resistors in place. I have an older tan 5 dip switch version and it works fine as ID 11. (yes I removed the new module to test with the old one)
Hey Vinash if you'er getting just 107 and not zones 9 through 16 along with it that is a tamper issue. Make sure that dip switch 8 is on to disable the tamper
Check 107 wire expansion
Hi Kiwi, what which Vista 250 are you going to? The original 4219 modules had 5 dip switches, used 1k resistors, and did not offer an option to disable the use of EOL resistors. In 2011, the board was reworked. These modules had 8 dip switches, used 2k resistors, but the EOL resistors were still required, not optional (dip switch 7 must remain ON). In 2014, the board was reworked again. In the newest version, dip switch 7 allows you to set all zones as normally closed, with no resistor (dip switch 7 ON) or to require the 2k end-of-line resistor for all zones (dip switch 7 OFF). Here is a link to the guides: https://www.alarmgrid.com/products/honeywell-4219
Great! Thanks for letting us know.
Answered - I called Honeywell tech support the tolerance is 300 ohms. So no worries it will work by putting extra 8.2k resistor at panel. Yay!
I want to take the Vista 20 devices off that are onboard zones (2k) to the 4208SN expander used on my new Vista 250. Of course the 4208SN uses 10k resistors that are all EOL way up high in motions. Does anyone know if I use 8.2k resistor in series at panel will the tolerance be too high? IE 2k + 8.2 = 10.2k is the extra 200 ohms ok?
I am swapping out from a Vista 20 to Vista 250. The 20 had 4219 expanders with 1k resistors. have never seen that before. Thought they were always 2k?
On page 2-5 of the install guide they let you know how far you can run the wire for the 4299. https://www.alarmgrid.com/documents/honeywell-vista-21ip-install-guide
Hi!! I love your videos. I have a question. Is there a distance limitation as to how far this expansion module Ademco 4229 can be from vista 21IP panel as the house we are working in is 16000 sq ft with 48 zones and we were planning to put these panels to make the wiring little easy. Is that a good idea? Can we use these Ademco 4229 modules to achieve this? would there be any problems doing this way? Please help.
Yes the wire got pulled down we put it back up
What do you mean by "hit a door?" Nothing changed with the wiring? Two disarms will clear a trouble if the issue has been fixed...
i have a check 107 wire expanson after we hit a door . How do I reset to make it go away ?
Ok, that makes sense. Thanks!
It would automatically reflect into the panel. So if you set the 4219 to address 7, thats zones 9-16 so you'll be able to program a zone 9 AW Type zone and not have any issues as long as the 4219 is set for address 7 and things are wired up properly
After physically setting the zone expanders (7&8 respectively), how does this get reflected or programmed into the actual panel? I understand that on zone 9, I will have to provision it to AW (instead of RF), but is that it for both expanders? Thanks in advance.
Yes, based on the date codes in those pics, the older one was made in 2009, and the newer one was made in 2014. I'm pretty sure you're correct, so turn on Dip 7, and be sure to use the 2K resistors, even if its just at the 4219 itself.
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Thanks for the info Julia! I have a feeling that my late model 4219 is the version that requires the resistors (I did not wire it up that way). The diagram sticker makes note of this and is dated 5/11 revision B.
The unit with 5 dips, you can use the settings on this page, and just ignore the information about dips 6, 7, and 8. That one has a jumper that determines if tamper is enabled or not. If you don't wish to use the cover tamper, be sure the jumper is on the 2 pins closest to the middle of the board. There are 2 versions of the newer Honeywell 4219. In one, dip 7 should always be on, and 2K End of Line Resistors must be used. In the later version, Dip 7 determines if the resistors are being used, and when it's ON it means that resistors are NOT being used. It can cause a lot of confusion.
I bought them at separate times, so the Honeywell version has 8 dip switches and the older Ademco unit has 5.
How many dip switches does each of your 4219's have, and if they both have 8, about how old is each one?
With regards between new and old zone expanders, how do I set the zone expander's address when using two of them and of different vintage? Thanks!
There isn't a 4229U, there is a 4209U, which can add additional 2-wire smoke zones to panels that support V-Plex devices. Can you clarify what you have, and how you intend to use it?
I got 12 4229u zone expanders what are the dip switch settings for each of these?
Hello, I have a question. I am about to start a job where the customer has a old vista 20se panel, and needs to replace with a vista 15p panel. The panel has a 4204 relay for the smoke detectors installed. I have to add 6 more hardwired zone so I bought the 4219 zone expander. What would be the easiest way to remove everything out of the old one and install on the new panel? Thank you

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