What Loop Should My Honeywell Smoke Detector Be On For a Vista Panel?

The Honeywell 5808W3 is a wireless photo-electric smoke and heat detector with a total of 4 loops. To detect smoke/heat, the 5808W3 can be programmed using Loop 1 with a zone type 9, Fire without Verification, or zone type 16, Fire with Verification. The input Type should be 3, supervised RF.

Once the 5808W3 is programmed as Loop 1 for smoke/heat, users have the option to program additional loops in support of other features. Usually, each additional loop must be programmed as a separate zone.

  1. Loop 2, Maintenance, sometimes called the "Clean Me" feature is natively supported only by the Vista-128FBP and similar commercial combination fire and burg panels. On those panels this feature is enabled automatically when the zone is programmed as a "Smart Device". On these panels, this does not require that an additional zone be programmed. The maintenance signals will report on the same zone as loop 1, and will be sent along with the regular RF check-in signal. On other panels, such as the Vista P series panels, a separate zone can be programmed using loop 2. The zone type for supervision is optional. Suggestions are zone type 05, Day/Night (provides a trouble indication if the system is disarmed, and an alarm indication if the system is armed) zone type 08, 24 Hr. Auxiliary (provides an alarm condition whether the system is armed or disarmed) or zone type 12, Monitor (acts as a 24 hour trouble indication). Zone type 12 is the option Alarm Grid recommends.
  2. Loop 3 is for Low Temperature. The 5808W3 has a built in sensor that will report if the temperature falls below 41 degrees Fahrenheit. Program as Loop 3, zone type 8, 24 hour Auxiliary is recommended. This signal will also be sent along with the next regular RF check-in signal.
  3. Loop 4 is the cover tamper which does not require additional programming. Tamper will report as the same zone number as the smoke/heat zone.

The Honeywell 5806W3 is a wireless photo-electric smoke detector without a heat sensor which has 2 loops. For smoke alarm, the 5806W3 must be enrolled as Loop 1, with a zone type 9, Fire without Verification, or zone type 16, Fire with Verification. The input Type should be 3, supervised RF. On the 5806W3, the Loop 2 maintenance feature works just as described above for the 5808W3.

The Honeywell 5800COMBO is a wireless heat/smoke and carbon monoxide detector which may use a total of 5 zones. The smoke/heat detector sensor and the carbon monoxide sensor have separate serial numbers and must be programmed to the alarm panel on separate zones. The smoke/heat detector uses the serial number printed on the 5800COMBO, and is programmed as loop 1. It should be programmed with either a zone type 9 for Fire without Verification, or zone type 16, for Fire with Verification. Use Input Type 03 for supervised RF.

  1. Serial number 1, Loop 1 is for Smoke/Heat alarm. Program using zone type 09, Fire without verification, or zone type 16, Fire with Verification. When programmed, an alarm on this zone will cause a temporal 3 alarm sound. That means it will sound three slow beeps, then pause, three slow beeps, then pause. The smoke, the alarm panel siren, and the keypads will sound.
  2. Serial number 1, Loop 2 is for smoke Maintenance. If programmed, the 5800COMBO will report when the smoke detector needs cleaning. Program using serial number 1, with Loop 2 on Vista-15P, 20P, and 21iP panels. Users will need to assign a separate zone number. Select a zone type, such as Monitor Zone, or 24 Hr. Auxiliary. Use Input Type 3, supervised RF. When programming to Vista-128 or Vista-250 series panels that support the smart device option, enable "Smart Device" in zone programming. On these panels, maintenance signals will be reported on the same zone as the Smoke/Heat detector.
  3. Serial Number 1, Loop 3 is for Low Temperature. The 5800COMBO has a built in temperature sensing feature, and if programmed, it will report when the ambient temperature goes below 41°F. A separate zone must be programmed in order to use this feature. Select a zone type, such as Monitor, or 24 Hr Auxiliary Use Input Type 03 for supervised RF.
  4. Loop 4 is the cover tamper which does not require additional programming.
  5. Serial Number 2, Loop 1 is for Carbon Monoxide alarm. Serial number two will be one digit higher than serial number one, which is the smoke/heat serial number. Program using zone type 14, Carbon Monoxide. When this zone is activated, it will produce a temporal 4 alarm output. That means it will sound 4 rapid beeps, then pause, 4 rapid beeps, then pause. This alarm will only sound on the 5800COMBO, and the alarm panel keypads. It will not activate the panel siren. The sound options are based on the UL requirement for CO detectors (UL2075).
  6. Serial Number 2, Loop 2 is for Carbon Monoxide End-of-Life monitoring. Carbon Monoxide sensors have a finite life span of about ten years. When this zone is enabled, it will notify the user through the panel when the 5800COMBO CO detector reaches its end-of-life and needs to be replaced. It is recommended to program this as zone type 12, 24 Hour Monitor, or zone type 08, 24 Hour Auxiliary.

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