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Alarm Grid is happy to announce that Honeywell is releasing a brand new life-safety sensor, the 5800COMBO. This is an incredibly versatile device that includes three sensing capabilities in one package. The 5800COMOBO can detect fires with its smoke and heat sensing functions, and it can also detect the presence of life-threatening carbon monoxide. This makes it the first ever all-in-one life-safety product from Alarm Grid. It is the perfect solution for any user who wants to receive both fire and CO protection using one convenient device.


The 5800COMBO is designed for use with any LYNX Touch Panel, any VISTA Panel (with a wireless receiver) and the new Honeywell Lyric Controller. It can also interface with the 2GIG GC3 and GC2 systems. The device is special, in that it is programmed with a security panel using two separate zones. One zone is used for smoke detection, and the other is used for carbon monoxide detection. Both zones will use their own unique 7-digit serial number. The serial number for the carbon monoxide will be one digit greater. For example, if the serial for the smoke detector is 3333333, then the serial for the carbon monoxide detector will be 3333334.

The smoke sensor for the 5800COMBO operates in a very unique manner. The smoke sensor scans the environment for any airborne smoke particles. However, the device will not sound an alarm just by detecting smoke. Instead, a second sensor will need to verify the fire. There are three different methods that the 5800COMBO can use for confirmation. The first method is that the heat sensor for the device can also activate to confirm the fire. Any temperature over 135 degrees Fahrenheit will set off the device's heat sensor. The second method is for the device's built-in infrared (IR) sensor to detect the flickering glow of flames. Finally, the device's CO detector can go off. This dual-verification process is great for preventing false fire alarms due to to things like kitchen activity or indoor smoking. By law, the CO sensor will sound an alarm upon detecting dangerous levels of carbon monoxide.

One great aspect of the 5800COMBO is that it is a fully UL-listed device that is capable of requesting dispatch from a central monitoring station. This means that a user of the 5800COMBO may be eligible for a discount on their homeowner's insurance premium. These possible discounts typically vary between different insurance companies and locations. We suggest speaking with your insurance provider to find out more about any possible discounts.

The 5800COMBO will be available purchase from the Alarm Grid site starting tomorrow, April 10, 2017. We wholeheartedly recommend the device for anyone who needs both fire and CO detection with their alarm system.

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Hi DIYers! Today we are reviewing the brand-new 5800COMBO from Honeywell. The 5800COMBO is a versatile life-safety sensor that is great for any alarm system. It offers smoke, heat and carbon monoxide, all in one convenient device. This reduces the number of life-safety sensors a user will need to install. The device was very reliable in tests, and we have already received great reviews from end users. It definitely lives up to the quality one would expect from a Honeywell sensor. We recommend the sensor for anyone who is starting fresh with new life-safety devices.


The 5800COMBO is a great addition to the Honeywell 5800 Series of wireless sensors. These sensors are easy to program, and they work with a large number of alarm systems. Any LYNX Touch, Lyric Controller, 2GIG GC3 and 2GIG GC2 can use this sensor. The sensor can also interface with Honeywell VISTA Systems using a wireless receiver. But Qolsys System owners must look elsewhere for a wireless life-safety device.

The sensor programs with an alarm system in a somewhat unique way. It requires two wireless zones on the system. One zone is for smoke and heat detection, and the other is for CO detection. Both of these zones use their own 7-digit serial number. The final digit of the CO zone is one digit higher than the fire zone. For example, let's say that the fire zone is 2222222. In that case, the CO zone is 2222223.

Each sensor on the device has shown in testing to operate in a consistent manner. The 5800COMBO smoke sensor will trigger after detecting a small amount of smoke. But this will not set off an alarm on its own. Instead a second trigger must go off for an alarm to occur. This can occur in one of three ways. The first way is for the heat sensor to activate. This will happen if the sensor detects a temperature of 135 degrees Fahrenheit or higher. The second way is for the device's built-in infrared (IR) sensor to detect a fire. The IR sensor will look for the flickering glow of flames. It will trigger an alarm upon sensing this type IR energy. Finally, an alarm will always occur if the sensor detects carbon monoxide.

All this makes the 5800COMBO a very balanced device. You won't have to worry about the sensor triggering any false alarms. That said, it will still activate in the event of a real emergency. Our extensive testing process proved this. One minor concern about the device is that it is a very large sensor. The bulky size will put off some users. But the fact that the 5800COMBO serves dual purposes more than makes up for this. The device also features two prominent test buttons for easy testing. We recommend testing this device on a yearly basis.

The 5800COMBO is UL-listed and CP-01 approved. It can request central station dispatch in the event of an emergency. By installing one, a user can receive a discount on their homeowner's insurance. The amount of this discount will vary between different states and insurance companies. A user should speak with their insurance company to find out more about a possible discount. This is another huge benefit of owning a 5800COMBO.

Alarm Grid completely endorses the 5800COMBO as an outstanding life-safety device. It is one of the most versatile sensors we have ever seen. The device is reliable, and you can count on it in any emergency situation. False alarms are very unlikely to occur, and the insurance benefits you can receive are great. If you already have a standalone smoke or CO detector, then the 5800COMBO isn't for you. In that case, it makes more sense to get a sensor that only includes the function you need. But if you are starting from scratch, the 5800COMBO is second to none. The ability to receive both fire and CO protection in one device in phenomenal. And with the device's reliability and proven performance, you cannot go wrong.

The 5800COMBO is available for sale on our website right now. It is the perfect addition to almost any alarm system. Protect your home and your loved ones with this top-quality Honeywell sensor.

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Last week at ISC West, Honeywell received a SIA new product award for the newly released 5800COMBO. The Security Industry Association (SIA) rewards products that balance industry innovation with false alarm prevention. The 5800COMBO encapsulates this criteria almost perfectly. This is the first professionally monitored, fully UL listed wireless heat, smoke and CO combination detector in the industry. This feat alone is quite an accomplishment. The technology packed into the device makes this product even more deserving of this award.

Honeywell did not just integrate standard smoke, heat and CO detection into a single detector housing. They did much more. The individual technologies inside the COMBO are fairly standard. Photoelectric smoke detection, fixed temp (135F degrees) heat detection and electrochemical CO sensing. There is a new infrared (IR) technology designed to pick up ambient light levels and flame flickers. Also the CO detector does have a longer than average life expectancy of 10 years. Everything else is fairly common across other non-monitored combination detectors on the market. So what is it that makes the 5800COMBO so special?

(Photo: Honeywell's booth at ISC West just after the award was given by SIA.)

There are 3 programmable zones: smoke (loop 1 with serial), low temp (loop 3 with serial) and CO (loop 1 with serial + 1 on last digit). The low temp and CO zones are standard and only rely on a single sensing element to trip that zone on the alarm system. The smoke zone is much more advanced since this is the most common zone type for false alarms on these types of life safety detectors. This is especially the case in residential environments. It is the "multi-criteria algorithm" that sets this product apart. Yes Honeywell did it again and engineered a state of the art sensor.

The smoke zone requires two of the four sensing elements to be tripped in order to trigger a fire alarm at the alarm system and dial out to a central station. The four elements are photoelectric smoke detection, fixed high temp, CO and the new IR technology mentioned earlier. The first element must be photoelectric smoke detection. Then any of the other three elements in combination with smoke detection will trigger an immediate alarm and report if the system is monitored. If there is only airborne particulate detected the COMBO requires at least 5 minutes of alarm level contact before triggering.

This dual technology of sorts makes the 5800COMBO extremely versatile and less prone to false alarms. That means better protection for your property and more importantly life safety for anyone within the protected premise. False alarms are not only an issue for local authorities. End users are seeing increasingly higher fines per false alarm across the country. That means by using devices like the COMBO will potentially save you money in the event that your local authorities deliver fines for false dispatches.

All in all, we are very excited about the added value of the 5800COMBO to the Honeywell 5800 series line up. The barrier to monitoring smoke, heat and CO just lowered with the introduction of this simple to install, multi-faceted product. We believe that every Alarm Grid customer should have every form of life safety equipped in this device. If you do not already we recommend adding it today!

Note: This is a 5800 series wireless sensor that requires a compatible RF receiver. To confirm panel compatibility you can contact us at support@alarmgrid.com. There is a list of panels mentioned in the product description as well.

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The Alarm Grid team is proud to announce some very exciting news fresh off our journey to Las Vegas at ISC West. For those already familiar with our DIY platform you will be happy to hear that our existing alarm system brands, Honeywell and 2GIG have made some giants leaps in technology. We would like to welcome those that are new to our DIY community! ISC West is a larger than life convention with incredible innovation announcements from our core alarm brands. Where to start? Let's start with our foundation, Honeywell.



Honeywell makes excellent alarm equipment but there is steep competition now when it comes to software on Total Connect 2.0. Ahem, Alarm.com... Thankfully Honeywell came through at ISC West and showcased their new line of HD AlarmNet security cameras. Yes, HD cams that will tie in with your existing TC account. Check out our Lyric HD camera press release.

Another product that Honeywell released at ISC is the 5800COMBO. The first wireless heat, smoke and CO detector that will communicate with any 5800 series receiver. That means the Lynx Touch series, Lyric series and any VISTA series panel with a compatible 5881 RF receiver. Similar to the 5808W3 the heat detector utilizes both fixed temperature (135F degrees) and rate-of-rise heat detection (15F degrees within 1 minute) along with a photoelectric smoke detector. The integrated CO detector makes this combo unit the ideal multi-functional device. Since it does not use the SiX series RF technology it is not encrypted. Honeywell plans on releasing a SiX combo detector at some point in the future. Check out our blog post: 5800COMBO Wins SIA New Product Showcase Award


Those with a Lyric Controller should be psyched to learn that the Samsung Smartthings Z-Wave hub is now compatible as a secondary controller. There are some very unique features to the way the Lyric and Smart Things hub interact as a “primary” and “secondary” controller. The Lyric seems to be learning into SmartThings as a virtual primary of sorts. That is a word I just made up by the way. The point is that the Lyric can be learned into the hub and all devices are shifted to it. The difference is that the Lyric can still include devices after it is paired and shift these automatically to the SmartThings hub. Normally "secondary" controllers can control devices from a primary but only the primary can learn devices. The relationship between the Lyric and SmartThings breaks this general rule. If you have a Lyric and are looking for a more advanced platform to expand your automation this may be the one for you! We have a FAQ on how to pair them on our website.


Enough about Honeywell. Nortek the parent company of 2GIG made some lofty announcements at ISC. We will briefly touch them here and get up some more details FAQs and blog posts shortly. First off, the GC3 has had more firmware updates in the past couple months than it has since the release! Exciting stuff already available and even more to come...

Firmware version 3.0.1 and 3.0.2 are officially available. V3.0.1 added support for the XCVR3-GC3 900MHz transceiver and the IMAGE2 Alarm.com image sensor. While this was exciting the 3.0.2 now supports future LTE communications, Schlage Z-Wave door locks and local WIFI technology. The LTE communicator has not been released yet. We will blog post when we have it available. Should be soon! "Local" WIFI in this case means that it will speak locally to a touchscreen keypad but not offer remote communications to a server. The touchscreen keypad is called the SP1 and it is a slim tablet design that will offer simple security control. It is slated to be released this summer. We will be getting up the V3.0.2 firmware on our website ASAP!

Rumors of a 3.1.0 firmware release are the real buzz. The DW40 push button bypass door sensor will begin logging bypass events with this update. More importantly, broadband WIFI support and a larger fully functional touchscreen keypad that supports full security features and automation control as well. This will be called the SP2 and seems to be the exact same physical design as the GC3 panel. It even has the cellular door which will never be used. They must have done this for production cost efficiency purposes. Although it could have just been a GC3 at ISC West since they did not have the plastics made yet. Who knows. The SP2 will be a sweet addition to the Go!Control family nonetheless.


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We got our eyes on two completely new alarm system platforms from 2GIG. The Rely and Vario systems will offer two new vertical business models. The Rely panel will perfectly suit customers looking for an affordable, simple cellular alarm system. It is fully wireless and supports up to 14 of the 2GIG 345MHz wireless sensors (No 5800 series Honeywell like the GC panels). The Vario is a wired, bus based alarm system that supports up to 4 partitions. Prox tag keypads looks super slick! This will be more of a commercial system but will certainly be good for pre-wired residential environments as well.


Honestly Alarm.com has released so many products and third party integrations in the past couple of years I was little disappointed by their announcements at ISC West 2017. The flip side to that coin is the approach of other dealers to announce new products that do not reach the market for another year. I may prefer Alarm.com's strategy to simply push market technologies at full speed all year long. Release products when they are ready regardless of conventions like ISC. With all that said, Alarm.com does have some fun new toys.

Alarm.com currently offers water management tools in the form of flood protection and Z-Wave water valve control. However they announced adding irrigation control now. The Rachio Smart Sprinkler Controller and the Rain Bird Irrigation Controller will be offered into the long list of third party integrators. Yes you will be able to schedule your irrigation from your security app from across the world. Alarm.com is relentlessly tackling every vertical market and inviting them into their ecosystem. The final result is an incredibly versatile offering for customers with a wide range of different protocols, technologies and brands.

Alarm.com also announced a partnership with Legrand's On-Q smart audio system. Yes they are now involving AV! Hoping for a Sonos integration in the future. My hopes were not met with any solid responses so don't get your hopes up for anything too soon. Anyways the Legrand integration offers the first audio device to be immersed into automation scenes. Set schedules or build rules to trigger the audio in your home or business. The Legrand system utilizes a network of twisted pair cable like CAT5 or CAT6 to connect the different amps and peripheral speakers. This makes it easy to install with a prewired home.

Lastly the Alarm.com team showed us the new slimline doorbell camera. Manufactured by SkyBell this product fits a specific need for those with small spaces to replace an existing doorbell. The existing SkyBell HD is already available and due to its larger size offers a1080P resolution. The new slim design bumps it down to 720P but it still looks great.

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